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Wednesday, May 26, 2010

BURN: Deemocrat Police Chiefs Play The Fear Card On Immigration

This was totally predictable.  A cabal of collectivist police chiefs have flopped the fear card on the table in response to Arizona-style laws being proposed across the nation.  It is a tried and untrue tactic of the collective.


In the face of overwhelming support by the people citizens of Arizona and the entire U.S., the collective is trotting out the canard that enforcing law will result in more crime.
"This is not a law that increases public safety. This is a bill that makes it much harder for us to do our jobs," Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said. "Crime will go up if this becomes law in Arizona or in any other state."
Well, too late, Charlie!  The law IS the law in Arizona, and several other jurisdictions are headed in that direction.

But let's look at the argument these APPOINTED police chiefs are putting forward:
The new Arizona law will intimidate crime victims and witnesses who are illegal immigrants and divert police from investigating more serious crimes, chiefs from Los Angeles, Houston and Philadelphia said. They will join their counterparts from Montgomery County and a half-dozen other U.S. cities in meeting Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Wednesday morning to discuss the measure.
 I've heard the same nonsense from Bill White, candidate for Texas Governor and former Mayor of Houston, Texas.  "Why, golly, if police are made immigration cops, they just won't have time for effective crime prevention."  As I wrote a while back:
How does it REMOTELY cost good crime fighting...for the city to ALWAYS refer the illegal alien to ICE?  I suggest the opposite is true, and for this reason; illegal aliens are disproportionately likely to commit crime, as compared to other segments of our population.

In fact, I think it deductively obvious that RELEASING an illegal alien from either a custodial stop or actual incarceration is IRRESPONSIBLY EXPENSIVE.  We have them; we know or can learn their status; how is "catch and release" anything but a poke in the eye of immigration law...or effective police work?  A very good case can be made that the White policy...which is used by other Texas mayors...cost several peace officers their lives.
The other half of that BS is that illegal aliens will not cooperate with police investigations if they are prone to suffer the consequence of being in this country illegally.  There are several things wrong with that--

  1. There is nothing in the Arizona law that would suggest that a witness would have their immigration status questioned.  (Read the law, dammit!!!)
  2. The same "reasoning" would argue that we should not enforce drug law, since a drug user would have the same theoretical reluctance to provide information to police investigating a crime.  (The same applies to any law and offender.)
  3. The idea presupposes that illegals are cooperative with police investigations now.  That isn't established: "[Pinal County Sheriff Paul] Babeu called the police chiefs' argument "'flawed from the beginning.'"  Cooperation from illegal immigrants, particularly those coming from Mexico, is already low, he said, because they are in the United States illegally and because of law enforcement corruption in their native countries.  "'Somehow when they appear in the U.S., magically their perception of law enforcement improves overnight?'" Babeu said." 
  4. Police are not stupid; they extend protection within their discretion NOW to witnesses or informants in exchange for information.  In the Arizona law, there is more than adequate discretion for officers to simply avoid the ambit of immigration status when questioning a cooperative witness.
  5. The argument that there is a population of people who will not cooperate with public safety because of their own illegal status works AGAINST, rather than FOR the Deemocrat chief's case.  They are, by admission, people who present both a prey population for criminals, and a population of abettors of crime.
 The chiefs behind this are APPOINTEES by very Deemocrat administrations (Houston, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Tuscan and Phillidelphia.  Sheriffs, like Babeu and Arpio, who have to face voters, and who deal with the horrific consequences of illegal immigration every day, are supportive of the new law.


Deemocrats and their appointees like "catch and release" in lieu of enforcing the law, just as they are pushing amnesty (aka "comprehensive immigration reform") instead of securing our borders. 

5 comments:

  1. There is no point arresting illegal aliens for crimes, then deporting them. They will as often as not be back the next day. Unless and until the border is secure, deportation is absurd. Illegals need to be tried and incarcerated here for crimes.

    Here's another nifty reason to secure the border:

    "The Department of Homeland Security is alerting Texas authorities to be on the lookout for a suspected member of the Somalia-based Al Shabaab terrorist group who might be attempting to travel to the U.S. through Mexico..."

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26/terror-alert-mexican-border/

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  2. "There is no point arresting illegal aliens for crimes, then deporting them."

    I SORT of agree. Deporting criminals...under certain circumstances...is just a species of "catch and release". IF there are provisions for Mexican (or other) incarceration that will hold the criminal...REALLY, then I have less than no problem with deporting them.

    This is one of the features of the AZ law I LOVE...that is, it costs the illegal immigrant time in jail and a fine. Just picking them up, and pushing them across the border is STUPID. They bounce back before you can Jose Robinson. But the time in the cooler and the fine really hurt.

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  3. I'm a natural born American citizen. If I get pulled over, I have to produce a driver's license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance. I cannot call the officer a Nazi for asking to see my papers and refuse without going to jail.

    An illegal gets pulled over. What documents must he produce? A driver's license from Mexico? Isn't that suspicion enough?

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  4. The new Arizona law will intimidate crime victims and witnesses who are illegal immigrants and divert police from investigating more serious crimes, chiefs from Los Angeles, Houston and Philadelphia said.

    Asking to see a valid driver's license diverts the police from "more serious crimes"? So, next time an NC State trooper stops me for speeding and asks to see my license, I'm doing my bit to create a crime wave???

    They will join their counterparts from Montgomery County and a half-dozen other U.S. cities in meeting Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Wednesday morning to discuss the measure.

    I think that, if I was Gov. Brewer or an Arizona state assemblyman, I would politely tell Holder and these chiefs to buzz off. They do not have any responsibility for maintaining law and order in AZ, are not personally familiar with AZ's problems, and have no business officially expressing their views. And, in this case, it's not even "expressing their views" so much as creating propaganda for the regime and the pro-illegal community.

    I would also add that Philly in particular is not exactly the safest, most crime-free city in America, so the police chief there should concern himself with his own considerable problems before commenting about somebody else across the entire country.

    On another topic, came here from QandO. Plan to come back, but what's up with the changing fonts?

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  5. docjim:

    The Montgomery Co. referred to in the news piece is, I believe, the Washington, DC area. That is also one of the least safe areas in the nation. Funny, innit, how the cities these guys police are some of the most dangerous in the U.S.?

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